The Intercept interviewed CR’s Media & Communications Director Woods Ervin about wildfires in California, the impact on imprisoned people, and the fight to close 10 prisons in CA by 2025.

“I think we can assume that fires are going to continue regularly now and are now going to be chronic,” said Woods Ervin, who works with the coalition Californians United for a Responsible Budget, a statewide grassroots group that is pushing California to close prisons. “All signs point to that prisons don’t work, and so we need to figure something else out, because it’s just untenable.”